Ep. 43: Maturing Is Growing Into What Is Already True

How does striving to perform for God interfere with the growth God intends for you?

In this episode, Bill and Scott explore what it truly means to mature, distinguishing growth from performance-based sanctification. They explain why maturity is not about earning life but about growing into what is already given. The conversation highlights how love, safety, and honesty create the environment where genuine growth can happen.

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode:

(00:04) The idea that maturing is often misunderstood and confused with effort-based sanctification.

(01:31) Why believers already have new life and are fully sanctified from the beginning.

(03:25) How confusion about having life keeps people stuck in doubt.

(07:28) That new believers arrive self-centered and needy because of past wounds.

(09:32) How safe relationships model what growth looks like over time.

(10:40) How churches often become unsafe by focusing on behavior over people.

(17:31) Why hiding eventually defines people and stops maturity from forming.

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